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basty_goofy
Wed Aug 20 2008, 10:17PM
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Buna ziua, acesta este primul meu post pe forum.
Am o rugaminte: as vrea sa imi spuneti care ar fi CEL MAI IEFTIN sintetizator cu sample(nu MIDI) care se poate gasi. Sunt incepator si nu vreau sa dau banii pe scule scumpe la inceput. Nu conteaza ce site e, cumpar si din strainatate.

Va multumesc in avans!

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roby king
Wed Aug 20 2008, 10:22PM

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korg triton

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basty_goofy
Wed Aug 20 2008, 11:28PM
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O sa caut detalii. Multumesc!

Mai astept recomandari.

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basty_goofy
Wed Aug 20 2008, 11:59PM
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Presupun ca sintetizator cu aranjor inseamna cu sample-uri, cum vreau eu, nu?

Nu prea ma pricep...

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admin
Thu Aug 21 2008, 04:52AM


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Sintetizatoarele cu aranjor, sunt clapele cu ritmuri ... Acestea, in functie de model, pot avea sau nu si sampleuri ...

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cminor
Thu Aug 21 2008, 08:36AM

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Acum depinde ce faci cu el.
ca daca te bazezi pe sampling ai o mare problema la Triton (am lucrat cam 7 ani pe asa ceva) si anume... stocarea.
Cauta pe net sa vezi cati dispera dupa un hdd scsi sau "adaptor usb la scsi" (care sincer nici nu am auzit sa existe...).

Eu am incercat intai cu laptop si cubase + halion + reason dar iti pica la greu winBLOWS-ul si nu are rost.
Sfatul meu este ... sa faci ca mine.
Fantom-XR Roland la care am mai luat cu 1 mil 512SDRAM DIMM (Triton suporta maxim 32 SIMM) + Adaptor PCMCIA to Compact FLash la 400 mii + cardul de 1GB (ti-ajunge crede-ma) Compact Flash.

Transferul se face prin usb, ai si midi prin usb, ai soft de editare performance/patches/kituri de tobe/arpegiator/chords/etc, dar si soft de librarie (salvezi toate preseturile/adaugi)
Pentru convertire samples de la Akai sau altele ai translator de la chicken systems doar ca e mai greu de gasit pe net.
Eu prefer sa mi le fac singur modificand un preset, ca preiau si multiefectele de la el.
Pana acum am bagat doar 70-80 de preseturi ca nu am nevoie de prea multe (are el tonuri cu tona care suna nu jucarie).
Alt avantaj la fantom-XR (eu de 5 ani am tot visat ca il iau si acum multumita lui matrafox am reusit, ca mi-era firca sa iau ceva fara garantie de pe thomann ca totusi costa ceva) este faptul ca ai 256 USER PROGRAMS + 256 CARD PROGRAMS !!!!
Adica ai 512 Custom Programs . + 9x128 preset programs !!!!
La triton ai 4x128 din cate tin eu minte , si daca updatezi cu o placa cu rom, tot in cele 512 preseturi tebuie sa le salvezi!!!
La Fantom poti sa adaugi pana la 6!!!! placute cu ROM (adica alte sunete din fabrica) care vin cu PRESETURILE LOR!!!
Adica daca adaugi de ex LINK: Click aici ! o sa iti apara ca banca 10 (XS-01 sau o2 depinde unde ai inserat placuta).

la LINK: Click aici !
mai adaugi un controller midi si ai terminat povestea...

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basty_goofy
Thu Aug 21 2008, 11:35AM
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Multumesc pentru ajutor! Probabil ca o sa cumpar pana la sfarsitul anului.

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ionut extreme
Thu Aug 21 2008, 01:23PM
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Salutare !!! Cminor o sa te contrazic -Tritonul Clasic , Studio , Extreme suporta 96mega sample (3 memorii Simm de 32 mega ), iar Triton Le suporta 64 mega sample , 32 mega sunt wave-urile din Rom la Triton Clasic ( adica OSC-urile din clapa ,plus PCM Expansion Boards ca si la Triton Studio) , Triton TR are 64 mega WAVE ROM , Triton Extreme are 160 mega WAVE ROM !!!

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cminor
Thu Aug 21 2008, 01:52PM

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mda erau 2x32 ai dreptate la triton (clasic ca de asta era vb din post) 196_occasion14.gif
acum...

Tone generator:
HI synthesis system; 48 kHz sampling frequency, 32 Mbyte PCM ROM, 425 multisamples + 413 drum samples. Sampling; 16 bit, 48 kHz stereo/mono sampling, 16 Mbytesmemory standard, expandable to 64 Mbytes (adica ramai cu un ram de 16mb in mana 035_mad.gif la care te uiti....


Program / Combination:
640 programs (dar 128 sunt cele pt extensia moss care se cumpara separat) ../../images/emotes/yahoo/yahoo_idk.gif , 512 combinations, 64 drum programs, GM Level 2 - 256 programs + 9 drum set.
eu subliniam urmatoarele la triton dinamo

LINK: Click aici !

Floppy Disk Drive:
3.5 inch 2DD/2HD adica formatul de incarcare a samplingului... (sa te vad cu 50 de dischete la un tambal de 60mb si asta daca nu ai un ksf mai mare de 1,44mb ../../images/emotes/yahoo/yahoo_big_grin.gif ) 304_lamo.gif

si

* User-installable. Use 16 Mbyte or 32 Mbyte 72 pin SIMM modules that are either Fast Page or EDO -compatible, with an access speed of 60 nsec or faster. For details refer to a TRITON dealer near you.) adica merg numai cele Mutec (care costaaaaaaaaa muuult rau)
si

Floppy disks or an external hard disk can be used to back up this data, or to create your own data library. (The optional EXB-SCSI SCSI interface board is required.)

(adica extensia pt salvare pe ceva in afara de discheta este cumparata separat si nu e chiar ieftina)


TRITON Options:
The following Option Boards further expand the potential of the TRITON Music Workstation.

EXB-MOSS DSP Synthesizer Board
EXB-SCSI SCSI Interface Board

sincer mai bine iei un PA80 clipart_music_misc.gif , caruia ii poti pune macar un hdd fata de triton.


e adevarat ca intre 32 si 64 este o diferenta dar...
diferenta intre 512 DIMM + 16mb interni (528mb) si 64Mb .... ../../images/emotes/yahoo/yahoo_heehee.gif

crede-ma ca am avut cam 4 ani sa le studiez pe amandoua...

196_occasion14.gif
http://clape.ro/files/public/1219315953_55_FT2762_70iush447905-02_.jpg


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cminor
Thu Aug 21 2008, 01:54PM

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sa nu uit
LINK: Click aici !

Keyboard
61 keys (with velocity and channel aftertouch)
Maximum Polyphony
128 voices (shared with the sampling section)
Multitimbral Parts
16 Parts
Standard Wave Memory
128 M bytes (16-bit linear equivalent)
Standard Waveforms
1,480
Preset Memory
Patches: 1,152+ 256 (GM2)
Rhythm Sets: 40 + 9 (GM2)
Performances: 64
User Memory
Patches: 256
Sample Patches: 2,000
Rhythm Sets: 32
Performances: 64
Card Memory (PC card)
Patches: 256
Sample Patches: 7,000
Rhythm Sets: 32
Performances: 64
Effects
Multi-Effects: 3 systems, 78 types
Chorus: 3 types
Reverb: 5 types
Input Effects: 6 types
Mastering Effects: 3-band compressor
Sampling Data Format
16-bit linear (File Type: .WAV/.AIFF)
Sampling Frequency
44.1 kHz (fixed)
Maximum Sampling [*****]
Standard (32 MB)
mono:360 sec. approx., stereo: 180 sec. approx.
When expanded with DIMM (544 MB)
mono: 102 min. approx., stereo: 51 min. approx.
Number of Samples
User memory: 2,000
Card memory: 7,000 (PC card)
Sequencer Tracks
Phrase tracks (16 MIDI channels per track): 16
Pattern track (16 MIDI channels per track): 1
Audio Track: 8 stereo
Tempo track: 1
Beat track: 1
* The Pattern Track can hold up to 100 patterns.
Sequencer Resolution
480 TPQN
Sequencer Tempo
5 - 300
Sequencer Note Capacity
approx. 400,000 notes
Sequencer Song Length
9,998 measures
Sequencer Recording Method
Realtime recording, Step recording
Arpeggiator
Preset: 128
User: 128
Rhythm Pattern
Preset: 256 (32 groups)
User: 256 (32 groups)
Chord Memory
Preset: 64
User: 64
Display
Graphic 320 x 240 dots backlit LCD (Color)
Dynamic Pads
16 pads, Velocity and Aftertouch sensitive
Controllers
Pitch Bend/Modulation Lever
Control Knob x 4
Assignable Switch x 2
D Beam Controller
Connectors
Headphones Jack
A (MIX) Output Jacks (L/MONO, R): 1/4 inch TRS phone type
B Output Jacks (L, R): 1/4 inch phone type
Input Jacks (L/MONO/MIC, R): 1/4 inch phone type
[X6/X7/X8] Hold Pedal Jack (Half Pedal recognition)
[X6/X7/X8] Control Pedal Jack (assignable)
MIDI Connectors (IN, OUT, THRU)
USB Connector (supports file transfer (mass storage class) and MIDI)
Digital Audio Interface (COAXIAL INPUT/OUTPUT)
AC Inlet
Expansion Slots
Expansion of waveforms and patchs for the internal sound generator
SRX expansion boards: 4 slots
Expansion of sampling memory
DIMM: 1 slot (supports 128 MB, 256 MB, 512 MB (3.3 V))
External Storage Device
PC card: 1 slot (supports SmartMedia and CompactFlash using a PC card adapter)
Power Supply
AC 117 V, AC 230 V, AC 240 V (50/60 Hz)
AC 220 V (60 Hz)
Power Consumption
17W
Accessories
Handbook
Owner's Manual
Sound/Parameter List
Sample Data (Audio) CD
CD-ROM (Editor (Patch, Sample, Multi-sample), Librarian, S-700 series sample converter, USB MIDI driver)
Power Cord
Options
Wave Expansion Board: SRX Series
Keyboard Stand: KS-12
Pedal Switch: DP series
Foot Switch: BOSS FS-5U
Expression Pedal: EV-5

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